[Volokh] Jim Lindgren: John Lott Update on His Reported 1997 Study.--
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Posted by Jim Lindgren:
John Lott Update on His Reported 1997 Study.--
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2006_06_11-2006_06_17.shtml#1150212677
I have been meaning to post on several developments this spring
relating to economist John Lott, which I am doing in two posts.
As some of you may be aware, there was a dispute over whether John
Lott ever did a study of defensive gun uses in 1997, as he claimed to
have done. Interested people can review most of the ins an outs of
that dispute at Tim Lambert's [1]Deltoid site (Lambert is Lott's most
vigorous critic). In December 2002 and January 2003 I wrote a long,
tediously detailed, and ultimately inconclusive [2]report on whether
Lott ever did a study in 1997, finding good evidence that Lott had a
major data loss, but little evidence that Lott conducted a study in
that year.
Immediately after that report appeared, Minnesota gun activist and
former NRA board member David Gross came forward to say that he had
been interviewed for a gun survey, and he thought that he was
interviewed in the spring of 1997, probably by people working for
Lott.
Here is [3]what I later wrote to Instapundit about the Gross account:
As people may have heard, but may have not quite understood, I
found Gross a credible witness. Unfortunately, that is a lawyerâs
term of art. It is possible to have credible witnesses on both
sides of a case telling inconsistent stories. What I meant is my
opinion that most people who heard him would give credence to his
account (and that I found him generally believable), not that his
account would necessarily trump any other evidence.
The part of Mr. Grossâs written public statement that was slightly
different from what he told me concerned who called him for the
interview. When I asked him if he remembered anything about who
called, he said that he âwas beginning to thinkâ that the call came
from students in Chicago, perhaps at Northwestern or the University
of Chicago, but he was very uncertain about whether the call came
from a Chicago area source. In his public statement issued after he
talked with me more than once, however, Grossâs very uncertain
memory became a bit more certain, suggesting that the call probably
came from the University of Chicago. That and the timing (which he
was also not certain about) were the only things that pointed to
him having been called by Lott as opposed to another survey
organization.
As I delved into the other studies being done in the 1996-97
period, I found that Grossâs description of the questions that he
was asked fit a 1996 Harvard study by Hemenway & Azrael better than
Lottâs account of his study questions. First, Gross said that the
person who called him was interested in a defensive gun use that
happened a few years before he was surveyed, but was not interested
in a defensive use that occurred many years before that. This would
not fit Lottâs survey, since Lott [told me that he] asked only
about DGUs in the prior year. It would fit the Harvard study
perfectly, which asked about DGUs in the prior 5 years, but
excluded events before that. Further, Gross said that he gave a
narrative account of the event, which the caller was interested in.
Lottâs study had asked closed-end questions, which would make the
narrative superfluous, while the Harvard study was one of the first
to ask for a narrative account of DGUs. Last, Gross reported that
there was a question about state gun laws, which Lott did not ask,
but the Harvard study did.
Some weeks ago John Lott emailed me to report that the data for the
1996 Hemenway study had been released and that the demographics for
each respondent from the state where Gross lived (Minnesota) did not
fit Gross. I checked those data and also downloaded and checked the
open-ended narrative accounts in the 1996 Hemenway study of defensive
gun uses from Minnesota. Since neither the demographics nor the
descriptive accounts matched Gross to any Minnesota respondent, it
seems clear that Gross was not surveyed by Hemenway in 1996.
Interestingly, even in 2003 neither Tim Lambert nor David Hemenway
thought it likely that Gross had been surveyed in the 1996 Harvard
study. Since Gross's account of the questions asked fit Lott's claims
about his 1997 study in some respects but not others, we are left with
several possibilities. If Gross is not lying (and despite his strong
pro-gun orientation and some minor changes in his story, I still think
that it is more likely than not that Gross is basically telling the
truth as he remembers it), then either Gross or Lott misremembered
some of the questions asked or Gross was surveyed for yet another
survey.
By the way, John Lott also wrote me that another survey participant
came forward a year ago, but I have not interviewed him or her.
Last, it appears that Lott is no longer fulltime at AEI. Although
[4]his page there is still reachable from Google, it is no longer
linked from the [5]AEI scholars page. He is listed as "Former Resident
Scholar."
References
1. http://www.deltoid.timlambert.org/lott/
2. http://timlambert.org/guns/lindgren.html
3. http://instapundit.com/archives/011786.php
4. http://www.aei.org/scholars/scholarID.38/scholar.asp
5. http://www.aei.org/scholars/filter.all/scholar_byname.asp
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